Saturday, November 13, 2010

More On SoCal Missile From A Missile


By George Freund
11-13-10
 

"Finally there is something that has occurred, in which I am actually an expert and qualified to give a real answer about. I am a retired U.S. Navy FireControl Technician, who is platform certified in the gun and missile systems on board Adams class guided missile destroyers, I have also worked with the Navy's Harpoon, Tomahawk and ASROC missile systems. (FireControl Techs operate, maintain and repair the computer, radar and periphial systems used to launch and guide the various naval weapon systems, we are the guys who "PUSH THE BUTTON").
 
Anyway, what I saw in the recent video concerning the object 30 miles off the coast of CA. Is blatantly a foreign made, Large Cruise or ICBM missile, being launched by a sub-surface aquatic platform.
 
First, I know it's a large missile because it did not exhibit the typical "corkscrewing" trajectory of a beam riding missile as it trys to aquire the targeting beam. This tells me its a Big Boy with a complete guidence system installed in it, what is nicknamed a "fire and forget" missile, as once its launched its internal guidance system takes over and there is no real need for external guidance.
 
Second, I'm fairly confident it's not one of ours, as the vapor trail appears "dirty" it looks brownish.
 
I have personally been involved in (5) SM2 missile launches, and (2) ASROC missile launches, and have been on safety observation for at least 15 more launches of Harpoons, Tomahawks and other missiles. We put alot of sweat and money into our "birds" and part of that is the fuel cells, they burn very clean, a whitish-blue infact, not a dirty blackish brown. That missile had rather crude fuel cells, which tells me its not one of ours.
 
I bet the brass in Washington is freaked out big time, because of what I know of our "defenses" they should really have had a pretty good idea this thing was sitting there, and they should have been watching it, not only that the moment it broke the surface of the water and ignited our early warning dopplar should have picked it up, and relayed the info to NORAD, and the CAP units flying patrol over the country... Any high ranking expert who believes this is a condensation trail off of a commercial airliner is lying or stupid. I hope you hear from other Fire Control Techs who saw the same thing I did."

California‘s missile

Eyewitness account of  California‘s missile.

I served and qualified fully as a junior officer aboard a 688i class sub from 2000 to 2003 out of San Diego. We completed various missions, including ops in areas like the YELLOW SEA.”

 The list of possibilities for this event is rather short based on the facts. Let’s just say the USN *may* know where every PRC sub is every instant in time based on ALL kinds of intel. And when they don’t, let’s just say that may be a priority. Beyond that, for a PRC sub to transit the pacific and launch only miles away from US territory would be like trying to drive a dump truck inside the lobby of a public library without anyone noticing. There’s only one set of non-US subs that would have a prayer to pull this off, and they’ve been rusting for 15+ years now.
 So, this has to be an accident (basically impossible given the USN’s procedures), or a US launch where the DOD for some reason is playing dumb. When I was in, the USN tended to conduct a full FLBM (fleet-launch ballistic missile) test only every 1-2 years and it’s a BIG deal when it happens. The third possibility is that this isn’t a FLBM and something even more unlikley or unusual.
So take your pick.
by tahoebumsmith
on Tue, 11/09/2010 – 13:06
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As I said on the other string, My son reported seeing 2 stealth bombers flying over head in Nor Cal just before dusk. I questioned him on what he saw and he informed me they were the black triangles we saw at the air show and were hovering for a moment and then shot towards the coast??? Happened about the same time?? I’m wondering if it was related?